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♪ (SOFT MELODY PLAYING
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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♪ (RandB SONG
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Oh, man.
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Um, do you have any more
of this particular shirt?
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Because it jumps
from a 16 and a half, 34,
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-to a 17 and a half, 37.
-Okay.
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Sixteen and a half.
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{\an8}CLAIRE HUIE:
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{\an8}I'm getting clothes
for the 48 Hour interview
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and more extra clothes
to go to court
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and nice dress clothes
and stuff like that.
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{\an8}CLAIRE:
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{\an8}Good? Good.
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{\an8}CLAIRE:
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{\an8}Yeah, they are
a little bit long.
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{\an8}I think we need to go
with the 29s.
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JERRY: There you go.
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Did you want to go shorter?
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But that's basically
where they should live.
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Well, if that's the way
they're supposed to be
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then that's the way
they're supposed to be.
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I'll go with that then.
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Yeah, any time,
all your slack should hit about
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right at the back of the heel.
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That's rule of thumb.
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Yeah, see, I'm so used
to doing this with my mom,
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but all my family's
out of state right now.
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-Oh, my gosh. (CHUCKLES)
-So...
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-You're on your own. (LAUGHING)
-Yeah, finally.
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And I'm sure you probably think
it's really funny,
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but we're doing a documentary
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because I just got off
death row.
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Oh, okay.
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(POLICE SIREN BLARING)
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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NEWSCASTER 1:
Four young Austin girls dead.
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NEWSCASTER 2: ...at the
I Can't Believe It's Yogurt!
shop, where two of them worked.
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NEWSCASTER 1: Shot and killed
during an apparent robbery.
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{\an8}NEWSCASTER 3:
The bodies were found
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{\an8}in the back of the shop,
badly burned.
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{\an8}NEWSCASTER 4: Authorities are
sifting through the evidence
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hoping to find some answers.
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LANIER PRINCIPAL:
The Lanier school community
have been saddened
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by the tragic deaths
of four young ladies
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for whom we mourn today.
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AMY NEWMAN:
I can't believe it happened.
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{\an8}I guess I had to see for myself
that it really did.
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{\an8}You don't ever think
anybody's going to come
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{\an8}into a yogurt place...
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{\an8}(SNIFFLES) ...and shoot you
and all your friends.
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This just doesn't happen
at the yogurt place. (CRYING)
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♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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You sure have been most helpful
and very generous today,
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so I'll definitely come back
and do business with you.
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Because I used to be a salesman
at Radio Shack myself...
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-JERRY: Oh, did you?
-...so I understand
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a little bit of what you're
going through, yeah.
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Yeah, I've spent two years
in a county jail
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and then four years on death row
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and then two years
in population.
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{\an8}NEWSCASTER: Seventeen-year-old
Jennifer Harbison,
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{\an8}her 15-year-old sister Sarah,
and 17-year-old Eliza Thomas
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{\an8}all died from a single gunshot
wound to the back of the head.
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{\an8}Thirteen-year-old Amy Ayers
was shot twice
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{\an8}in the back of the head.
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REPORTER: "Senseless"
is a word being used most often
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as police describe
Austin's worst murder case.
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♪ (DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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-First name?
-ROBERT SPRINGSTEEN:
It's Robert.
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Robert.
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-And your last name, Robert?
-ROBERT: Springsteen.
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Oh. (CHUCKLES)
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Not related to Bruce, though?
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Well, as a matter of fact, I am.
He's like my dad's sixth cousin.
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So, I guess it would--
make him my seventh cousin.
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JERRY: Wow.
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-All righty.
Got you all set, guys.
-All right.
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-Good luck to you.
-ROBERT: Thank you.
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Everything's going
to work out okay? (CHUCKLES)
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ROBERT: It sure seems that way,
at least for right now.
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You're off to a good start, man.
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-Thank you, Jerry.
-Thank you.
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I appreciate your...
-Hey, no problem.
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-...assistance today.
-You bet. You have a good one.
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JERRY: Thank you very much.
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♪ I was livin' in a devil town ♪
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{\an8}♪ Didn't know
It was a devil town ♪
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♪ Oh lord
It really brings me down ♪
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{\an8}♪ About the devil town ♪
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♪ I was livin' in a devil town ♪
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♪ Didn't know
It was a devil town ♪
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♪ Oh lord
It really brings me down ♪
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♪ About the devil town ♪
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ASSISTANT: Is this okay?
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{\an8}JUSTIN ZEIFWACH:
A little higher, please.
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{\an8}A little higher,
a little higher. There you go.
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MARGARET BROWN: Whenever
you're ready, just tell me.
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-Yeah.
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-You ready?
-Yeah.
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-Let's go.
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-Thank you, sir, for doing this.
-You're welcome.
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MARGARET: I am curious
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about what initially
drew you to the story.
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I just was curious about
how you got involved in this,
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the yogurt shop.
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Okay.
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MARGARET: How does it feel
to be part of this thing,
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31 years later?
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What does that feel like?
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(SIGHS) Uh...
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MARGARET: I'm interested in
the trauma that surrounds
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-this case because--
-The what?
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MARGARET: The trauma that
surrounds this case.
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The depth that people
like you cared about it.
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You know, I'm interested
because Austin is where I live.
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I remember this case.
I know how important it is.
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But also, like, is there a way
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that this story
can help with healing?
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♪ (SENTIMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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Um, that's a very open question.
(LAUGHS)
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MARGARET: Yeah, I think it is.
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At a point, it's just,
do you want to...
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Do you want to be
the weak person
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and just have this thing
totally consume your life?
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Or do you want
to go ahead and live?
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People don't want
to talk about their grief.
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That's private.
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It's just, I've learned to deal
with it in different ways.
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People are afraid
to share the brutality
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that they've been through.
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MARGARET: What comes up first
when you think of her?
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Uh, for one, it's been 30 years,
seven months, and five days
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and I still can't believe it.
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♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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CLAIRE: There are
a lot of details to the case.
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There are a lot of people
with strong opinions.
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You think you know one thing
and then you talk to somebody
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and they convince you
of an entirely different thing.
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That's right.
On this day in 1991,
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four teenagers were
shot and murdered
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{\an8}inside what was a yogurt shop
in this strip mall.
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What you're reduced to
is just people's experiences
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of the crime and its effects.
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♪ ("PEPPER"
BY BUTTHOLE SURFERS PLAYING) ♪
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♪ Some will die in hot pursuit
Fiery auto crashes... ♪
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INTERVIEWER 1: We're here
in the drag in Austin, Texas,
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asking people about life
on other planets.
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Whoa, check it out,
check it out. Bam!
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♪ I don't mind
The sun sometimes... ♪
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INTERVIEWER 1: What'd you
have for breakfast this morning?
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I don't remember.
I was pretty wasted.
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INTERVIEWER 2:
Are you a student?
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Uh, no, actually.
I'm just in a band mostly.
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REPORTER: Someone with
some big bucks had big plans
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to change the landscape.
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AUSTIN RESIDENT:
I feel bad about being displaced
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by all those people
coming here, right.
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{\an8}And it makes me wonder
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{\an8}what's going to happen
in the future.
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♪ (SONG FADES) ♪
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CLAIRE: Austin used to be
a little college town.
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And then it started
to become a big city.
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{\an8}And a big-city crime
happened here.
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{\an8}CLAIRE:
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Well, it was one of the most
shocking stories I've heard
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in the 20 years
that I've lived here.
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People were scared to go out.
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People were scared
to go get yogurt.
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I mean, how scary is that?
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I don't know that
the city of Austin
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has ever been the same
since the yogurt shop murders.
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I mean,
that was a loss of innocence
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for this town for sure.
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♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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CLAIRE: The yogurt shop murders
was like a ghost story
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that people told.
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It was always told
in hushed tones,
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"This happened here."
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Partly because nobody
has all the details.
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Also because it was
never solved.
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This case was so big in Austin.
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It was exciting to work
on a film about it,
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even if I didn't really
know what I was doing.
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{\an8}CLAIRE: So, that was in, I think
all of this filming took place
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is around 2009, I guess.
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And I'm sure
you probably think
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it's really funny,
but we're doing a documentary
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because I just got
off death row.
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CLAIRE: I was taking
a video class and I had access
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because I had this friend
who had worked on the case.
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♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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{\an8}Can you see it from there?
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{\an8}CLAIRE: Hold it out--
hold it up like that.
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And then I didn't finish it.
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Of course, I had
all this amazing footage
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to look back on.
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LOUIS AKIN: Um, tonight,
we're going out
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to the-- where the yogurt shop
used to be, the building,
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to test a theory.
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CLAIRE: This was a kind of case
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that never left
anybody who worked on it.
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When these shootings happened,
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there were a bunch of boys
drinking in a creek
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{\an8}right behind the yogurt shop.
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It's where that
cash advance store was.
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That used to be the yogurt shop.
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There were booths
along the sides
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and there were tables
in the middle.
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And the cashier
would be behind that--
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looks like a fica tree,
but I think it's plastic.
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And that counter there
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where people would come up
and order yogurt.
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Behind that,
they had the refrigerators
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and there's a separate room
back there.
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And it was back there
that the girls were killed
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and that the place
was set on fire.
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♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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AKIN: It's a little chilling
standing here like this.
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There was
a terrible tragedy here.
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Let's go head down
and we'll position
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the film crew.
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CLAIRE: This case doesn't
make any sense.
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And everybody who
was touched by it
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can't get to the bottom
of the narrative.
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{\an8}(RADIO BEEPING)
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{\an8}-POLICE DISPATCH: Jonesy.
-JOHN JONES: Yeah.
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{\an8}POLICE DISPATCH:
Did you hear about
the call 2900, West Anderson?
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-Yeah, I'm headed over there.
-POLICE DISPATCH: Okay.
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I'll meet you out there.
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-(DEVICE BEEPING)
-JONES: 2900.
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-(WALKIE TALKIE BEEPING)
-Homicide four.
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{\an8}(POLICE SIREN BLARING)
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{\an8}♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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{\an8}JONES:
People ask me all the time,
"How long are you in homicide?"
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{\an8}And my response is,
"153 bodies."
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{\an8}Because that's how
you measure time
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{\an8}when you're
a homicide detective.
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{\an8}NEWS ANCHOR:
In some cities across the state,
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{\an8}people are killing each other
in record numbers.
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{\an8}Tonight, we take
a look at Austin
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{\an8}as crime reporter Lisa Kosolou
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continues her Channel 7
news close-up.
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{\an8}JONES: A Channel 7 reporter
was doing a series
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{\an8}on murder in Texas.
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{\an8}They went riding around with me,
and then we made calls.
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{\an8}There seemed to be
a lot more random murders,
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{\an8}random violence.
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{\an8}And then while we were
at the last call,
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{\an8}they called me
on my handheld radio.
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(RADIO BEEPS)
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{\an8}Okay, I'm copying the fire part.
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{\an8}You cut out on
the first part of that, though.
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And I go, "Fire?"
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because they wouldn't
need me for it.
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{\an8}POLICE DISPATCH:
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-(RADIO BEEPS)
-That's 10-4. Going around.
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(SIRENS BLARING)
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JONES: (CLEARS THROAT)
A triple fatality.
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A murder. Great.
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(SIRENS BLARING)
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(RADIO BEEPS)
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JONES: Uh, where do I need
to come to, in here?
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What place of business is this?
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{\an8}POLICE DISPATCH:
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{\an8}-(RADIO BEEPS)
-JONES: Okay.
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By the time I got there,
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as I pulled
into the parking lot,
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was when they called me
on the radio
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and said they found
a fourth one.
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I had to go in through
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the party shop,
which was next door,
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{\an8}because I couldn't go
in the front door
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{\an8}because the fire department
was still in there
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{\an8}knocking down the fire.
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(POLICE SIRES BLARING
IN A DISTANCE)
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JONES: It was still smoldering.
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They had pulled down
the ceiling,
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so there was water everywhere.
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There was steam everywhere.
There was smoke everywhere.
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As it started to clear out,
you could see the bodies.
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Three together and then one
away from the others.
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{\an8}I'm not at all afraid
to go in the room
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{\an8}to see a dead person.
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{\an8}I don't want to see
no dead child.
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That don't work with me.
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(INDISTINCT POLICE RADIO
CHATTER)
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JONES: The obvious question
when you got females
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{\an8}that are stripped, shot,
and burned is,
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were they sexually assaulted?
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When a body's been
declared dead,
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it belongs to
the medical examiner.
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The medical examiner wanted
to just load them up
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and take them down
to the morgue
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to do an autopsy.
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But I wanted them to wait
until DPS got there
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so they could do swabs,
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because DNA was
something fairly new then.
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But I knew and Huck knew
that that was important.
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And if it hadn't been
for Huck...
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You know, he's the one
who talked 'em into waiting
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until DPS got there.
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We called the manager.
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She said there's only supposed
to be two girls there.
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Only Jennifer and Eliza
actually worked there.
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♪ (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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REESE PRICE: It was my first day
of my vacation,
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{\an8}and my mother-in-law
knocked on the door
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{\an8}and said, you know,
"You got a phone call.
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The police are
on the phone for you."
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And no phone call
in the middle of the night
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is a good call. Never.
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I was just kind of like,
"Yes, sir?"
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He said, "We've had a fire
at the yogurt shop."
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And I'm looking at the time
and I'm like,
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"Okay, let it burn?"
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You know, I was kind of kidding
because I knew
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that the girls
would have been finished.
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And he says,
"Well, I need you to sit down."
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I'm like, "I'm fine. What's--
What's wrong?"
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And he said, "No, no, no.
I need you to sit down."
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And again, he tried to warn me.
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And I said,
"No, sir, what's wrong?"
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And he said, "Well,
we have four dead bodies."
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And my knees went--
They just... Boom!
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And he said,
"Can you come up here?"
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It's slow motion.
It's literally slow motion.
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There was like this mist.
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And I could see the yogurt shop
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and there was just
lights flashing everywhere,
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sirens, fire trucks.
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And I remember
sort of a panic hitting in,
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"Okay, this is real.
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This is real. This is real."
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We pulled up, and I think it was
Jones and Huckabay.
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One of them said,
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"Do you-- Do you think that
if we went inside,
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you could identify the bodies?"
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"Sure."
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They said it'd be better
for me to do it
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than their families.
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I was only 24.
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I wasn't thinking fire
and burned people.
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I agreed to it because it was
the right thing to do,
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and I still feel that
to this day.
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It was just best.
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There was fire trucks
in the back alley
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and there was media everywhere.
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We wound up going through
the front of the store.
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There's no lights. Dark.
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You know, you got the counter,
the machines,
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and then there's the door
that leads you to the back.
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The water was dripping down
on you, and it was dark.
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It was-- It was just ominous.
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And, um, there wasn't
anything there to identify.
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So...
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They didn't have faces.
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There's no clothing.
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Fire's, um, very destructive.
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It's not forgiving.
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♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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{\an8}JONES: What we found
in the back there
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{\an8}was we found four victims.
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{\an8}That's all we can comment on
right now.
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REPORTER 1:
Were the victims together
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or were they in different parts
of the building? Can you...
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No, I can't.
Can't give you that either.
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REPORTER 2:
Were they bound in any way?
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Can't give you that.
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REPORTER 2:
Was there any sign
of forced entry to the building?
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Can't give you that.
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REPORTER 2: What can you give?
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Just what I gave you.
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It's still very early
in the investigation, okay?
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And there'll
probably come a point
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that we need that information
to solve this case.
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Put your hand. Hold on,
put your hand right here.
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SONORA THOMAS:
It's already turned on, Liz.
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{\an8}Right here. I know. She puts
her hands over here. And look.
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{\an8}Okay. Yeah.
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{\an8}SONORA: I was 13.
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{\an8}I was at my dad's house.
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And then,
in the middle of the night,
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there was banging
on the front door.
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Give me a kiss, Sonora.
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{\an8}And they didn't really
know anything.
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{\an8}I mean, that was like
the confusing part
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{\an8}about that night.
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{\an8}As they came in
and they were like,
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{\an8}"There was a fire."
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{\an8}And said
something happened to Eliza.
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Yeah. It was such
a confusing scene.
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I just remember-- and I--
my body just started
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to have this
really strong reaction
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and my-- my teeth
just started chattering.
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Yeah. I remember at one point
just putting my hand in my mouth
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to try to stop my teeth
from chattering.
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{\an8}My parents were divorced.
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{\an8}So, at some point we had to go
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{\an8}to tell my mom
what was going on.
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Hi, Sonora, how are you?
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And my mom wouldn't come
out of the house to talk
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to the police officer.
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I just remember my dad,
you know, saying, you know,
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"Take care of your mom"
and then leaving.
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My mom like, went to her room...
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and I just started
cleaning the house.
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And at some point,
I turned on the TV
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and this story was on the news.
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{\an8}REPORTER 1: The first sign
that something was wrong
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{\an8}came just after midnight
last night.
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{\an8}That's when
a passing police officer
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{\an8}noticed smoke
coming out of the store.
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REPORTER 2:
But once the smoke cleared,
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firefighters made
a grim discovery.
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They found the bodies
of four young victims.
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All had been shot in the head.
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{\an8}The victims are identified
as Eliza Thomas--
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{\an8}SONORA: And my sister's picture
was on the news.
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{\an8}I remember going to bed
and just thinking...
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like, "I've never
woken up on a day
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that my sister wasn't alive,"
you know.
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There's no Sonora without Eliza.
There's no Eliza without Sonora.
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REPORTER 2:
...17 years old
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and a student
at Lanier High School.
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{\an8}Jennifer Harbison,
also 17 years of age
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{\an8}and her 15-year-old sister,
Sarah Harbison.
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{\an8}Both girls were
Lanier High School students.
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{\an8}It was just unspeakable
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{\an8}that someone did this
on purpose.
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{\an8}It was unspeakable.
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You know, you just have
all those regrets of...
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of not protecting.
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DICK ELLIS: Home video tapes
give us intimate glimpses
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of the girls
and their personalities.
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Jennifer was 17. Sarah was 15.
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Jennifer's athletic claim
to fame was track.
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Sarah loved the game
of basketball.
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BARBARA AYRES-WILSON:
These balloons here
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are from Sarah's last birthday.
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DICK: Barbara and Frank Suraci
spend a lot of time
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in their daughter's rooms.
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This is Jennifer's room.
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She too was a tomboy.
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Two weeks after the murders,
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a reporter came
to our house and he said,
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"You're not crying."
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And I said,
"I don't have anything left."
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As a matter of fact,
this is Jennifer's pin
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from the yogurt store
for her uniform.
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I just get to a point that
I couldn't cry a lot anymore.
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DICK: Jennifer and Sarah
shared a passion,
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F.F.A., raising sheep.
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BARBARA: They really just
love those animals.
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They just love them.
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DICK: Frank and Barbara
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still do not believe
their girls are gone.
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They know someday
the killers will be caught.
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BARBARA: We chose to be public
about this from the beginning,
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hoping that it would help
solve our case sooner.
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And so,
any opportunity that we had
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to be in front of a camera
at any time,
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most of us parents
would do that.
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{\an8}DICK: If there was ever
anyone who was nearly born
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in the saddle, it was Amy Ayers.
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CROWD: (SINGING)
♪ Happy birthday... ♪
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DICK: Amy's birthday.
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At 12, she got
her cutting horse, Copy.
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{\an8}Her love of animals took her
to the F.F.A.
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And it was through the F.F.A.
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that she became friends with
Jennifer and Sarah Harbison.
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PAM AYERS: Didn't have
to worry about those two
when they were together.
476
00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:09,971
We knew that they were going
to be safe in what they did.
477
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,141
DICK: That was until
the night of December 6.
478
00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:15,477
Amy and her three best friends
were... (VOICE FADES)
479
00:23:20,273 --> 00:23:21,983
SHAWN AYERS: The clearest memory
I have of her
480
00:23:22,025 --> 00:23:23,693
is the first time
I got to hold her.
481
00:23:23,777 --> 00:23:25,070
And I was sitting
in a rocking chair,
482
00:23:25,153 --> 00:23:26,321
her on my lap.
483
00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:28,156
{\an8}I remember, because I wanted
a little sister so bad.
484
00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:29,491
{\an8}I didn't want a little brother.
485
00:23:29,574 --> 00:23:33,370
{\an8}So, when I had a little sister,
I was bayonets.
486
00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:34,996
I got everything
I wanted right there.
487
00:23:35,038 --> 00:23:38,208
♪ (EMOTIONAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
488
00:23:40,836 --> 00:23:42,254
Back him a little bit there.
489
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,342
There's not one day
that I do not think of her,
490
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,803
or Sarah, Jennifer,
or Eliza, any of them.
491
00:23:50,637 --> 00:23:57,436
(INDISTINCT ANNOUNCEMENT
OVER PA)
492
00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:07,863
SHAWN: My dad's always ranched.
493
00:24:07,904 --> 00:24:10,949
We always had animals,
did cowboy stuff.
494
00:24:11,032 --> 00:24:12,742
I mean, that's how I was raised.
495
00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:18,665
{\an8}The best way to live
or raise kids is on a ranch.
496
00:24:18,707 --> 00:24:20,876
If you're on a ranch,
you've got everything you want.
497
00:24:22,085 --> 00:24:24,337
We had our own milk cows,
we had a garden,
498
00:24:24,379 --> 00:24:25,589
we had our own beef.
499
00:24:26,506 --> 00:24:28,592
I'd ride a horse to the mailbox.
500
00:24:28,675 --> 00:24:30,343
It's just the little things
like that.
501
00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:35,223
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
502
00:24:35,265 --> 00:24:39,561
BOB AYERS:
The kids, they seen calves
and horses be born,
503
00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:41,897
seen them grow up,
seen them get fat,
504
00:24:41,938 --> 00:24:43,231
seen some die.
505
00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,734
You know, it was real life,
it was real.
506
00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:47,694
♪ (SENTIMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
507
00:24:49,237 --> 00:24:51,865
BOB: When I think of her,
I think of horses.
508
00:24:53,950 --> 00:24:56,161
But ever since she was
knee-high to a duck,
509
00:24:56,828 --> 00:24:57,996
she liked the horses.
510
00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,628
SHAWN:
If you're riding a cutting horse
you're riding a cutting horse.
511
00:25:04,711 --> 00:25:07,589
You're doing the same thing
that the adults are doing.
512
00:25:07,631 --> 00:25:10,592
There's no "kid version"
of riding cutting horses.
513
00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:12,427
It's all the same thing.
514
00:25:12,511 --> 00:25:14,596
(HORSE NEIGHS)
515
00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:16,431
BOB: A lot of times
I'd be riding some colts
516
00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:19,476
and I'd be having a problem,
I'd just stick her on him.
517
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:21,436
For a couple of days,
she'd ride him in the pasture,
518
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:22,479
do this, do that.
519
00:25:22,562 --> 00:25:24,648
Come back
and my problems were over.
520
00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:25,899
She just knew animals.
521
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:30,237
{\an8}PAM: She was happy.
522
00:25:30,278 --> 00:25:32,072
{\an8}I mean,
she could be very serious.
523
00:25:32,113 --> 00:25:33,615
{\an8}She's kind of an old soul
524
00:25:33,698 --> 00:25:37,619
{\an8}but she was happy
and most happy around animals.
525
00:25:37,661 --> 00:25:40,580
So, when I see kids
and animals together,
526
00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:42,874
it really reminds me of her.
527
00:25:45,043 --> 00:25:46,294
BOB: And after we'd moved
to Austin,
528
00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,630
she got involved
with the Junior F.F.A.
529
00:25:50,006 --> 00:25:52,467
MISSY HESTER:
Future Farmers of America.
530
00:25:52,509 --> 00:25:57,097
{\an8}The farm was kind of like...
our, like, little getaway.
531
00:25:57,138 --> 00:25:59,224
(PIG GRUNTING)
532
00:25:59,307 --> 00:26:01,226
MISSY: After school,
everybody'd go to the farm.
533
00:26:01,309 --> 00:26:03,186
We'd raise animals
and stuff together.
534
00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:05,313
That's how I got to know
535
00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:07,774
Jennifer and Liza
and Amy and all of them.
536
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:10,986
{\an8}To me, F.F.A. teaches me
537
00:26:11,069 --> 00:26:14,281
{\an8}to be a better person,
and, um,
538
00:26:14,322 --> 00:26:16,491
{\an8}you know, to just learn more
about people
539
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,451
{\an8}and how things work.
540
00:26:30,755 --> 00:26:32,632
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
541
00:26:32,674 --> 00:26:35,051
-(THUNDER RUMBLING)
-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
542
00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:40,140
SHAWN: The thing that sucks
is the older I get,
543
00:26:40,181 --> 00:26:43,852
the less I can remember
about her.
544
00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:48,565
And I mean, I try to remember,
I don't know why it's happening.
545
00:26:49,065 --> 00:26:50,191
{\an8}It bugs me.
546
00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,653
{\an8}But it's-- I mean, it's weird.
547
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:55,155
{\an8}Smile!
548
00:26:57,949 --> 00:27:00,493
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
549
00:27:08,126 --> 00:27:11,296
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
550
00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:18,887
BEVERLY LOWRY: I had written
a previous book about a murder.
551
00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:25,560
And I learned to deal
with extreme behavior.
552
00:27:25,602 --> 00:27:30,899
{\an8}The extremities
of what people are capable of.
553
00:27:30,982 --> 00:27:35,153
What a human being can do
to another human being.
554
00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:39,699
MARGARET: So, we were going
back to the day it happened
555
00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:42,160
and the 48 hours afterward.
556
00:27:42,243 --> 00:27:45,246
In your mind, what are
the most pertinent thing
557
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:46,956
of those first 48 hours?
558
00:27:47,874 --> 00:27:49,501
BEVERLY: Uh, I think...
559
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:53,588
what really,
if you want to get down to it,
560
00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:56,758
made this
almost impossible to solve
561
00:27:57,384 --> 00:28:00,220
was the fire and the water.
562
00:28:01,888 --> 00:28:03,765
Especially the water.
563
00:28:04,307 --> 00:28:05,517
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
564
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,018
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
565
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:14,109
MIKE HUCKABAY: When I got
inside the yogurt shop,
566
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:16,111
{\an8}I was in water up to here.
567
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:18,988
{\an8}That's how much
the fire had come in there.
568
00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:22,367
JONES: Turns out a lot
of the firemen were kind of
569
00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:25,161
worried that they had
disturbed the crime scene.
570
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:28,206
You know,
there was soot everywhere.
571
00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:31,793
So much of the evidence
was probably contaminated.
572
00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:36,798
{\an8}So, taking fingerprints
was kind of pointless,
573
00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:38,633
{\an8}although we tried.
574
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,638
We found the key
left in the front door,
575
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,765
but that was apparently
part of the process
576
00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:48,143
of when they got ready to close,
577
00:28:48,184 --> 00:28:50,103
to put the key
in the front door.
578
00:28:50,145 --> 00:28:52,605
{\an8}We went through
the whole procedure
579
00:28:52,647 --> 00:28:54,441
{\an8}front to back.
580
00:28:54,482 --> 00:28:56,818
First of all, if there was
some customers in the store,
581
00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:58,611
you'd lock the door
and they would sit
582
00:28:58,653 --> 00:28:59,988
and usually finish.
583
00:29:00,029 --> 00:29:01,656
There were some people
that would stay
584
00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:03,408
and I know that
there was regulars
585
00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:05,577
that they knew
or felt comfortable with.
586
00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:07,620
We had a radio
587
00:29:07,662 --> 00:29:10,123
and they would dance
in the back and giggle,
588
00:29:10,165 --> 00:29:12,876
and they were always smiling,
always happy.
589
00:29:14,043 --> 00:29:17,088
It was a job, but I don't know
that it was work to them.
590
00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:20,800
They had a set order.
591
00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:24,095
I do believe
the toppings were put away.
592
00:29:26,306 --> 00:29:28,057
Machines were cleaned,
593
00:29:28,141 --> 00:29:31,519
but the gaskets
weren't put back on.
594
00:29:31,561 --> 00:29:34,314
I think there was a bucket
still sitting there on a ladder.
595
00:29:35,982 --> 00:29:37,901
There was still water
in the sink
596
00:29:37,984 --> 00:29:40,153
where they were washing
the topping ladles.
597
00:29:41,738 --> 00:29:44,324
My guess is they were close
to being finished.
598
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:46,910
But they had extra help.
599
00:29:46,993 --> 00:29:49,704
{\an8}The other two girls, I'm sure,
were put to work.
600
00:29:49,746 --> 00:29:52,874
{\an8}BEVERLY: Earlier that night,
Sarah and Amy,
601
00:29:52,916 --> 00:29:54,209
{\an8}the two younger girls,
602
00:29:54,292 --> 00:29:57,504
had been walking
around Northcross Mall.
603
00:29:57,545 --> 00:30:00,215
Jennifer picked them up
when the mall closed
604
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:02,717
and took them
to the yogurt shop.
605
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,553
Northcross Mall is blocks
from the yogurt shop.
606
00:30:05,595 --> 00:30:07,096
I mean,
it's walking distance, really.
607
00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:08,473
But, you know,
608
00:30:08,556 --> 00:30:10,558
safe side, she went
and picked them up,
609
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,894
brought them back,
ordered pizza,
610
00:30:12,977 --> 00:30:15,897
and they may have been
in the back
611
00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:20,902
helping clean up
when the intruders came.
612
00:30:23,613 --> 00:30:27,700
We surmised the yogurt shop case
was a robbery gone bad.
613
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,705
That it went sideways
because the bad guys,
614
00:30:32,747 --> 00:30:33,957
however many there were,
615
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,042
weren't aware
that there were two more girls
616
00:30:36,084 --> 00:30:37,544
in the back of the store.
617
00:30:37,585 --> 00:30:40,880
So, they'd been casing it even
for a short period of time,
618
00:30:40,922 --> 00:30:43,883
all they would have seen
was the two girls out front.
619
00:30:44,717 --> 00:30:46,761
So, they were up against four.
620
00:30:46,803 --> 00:30:49,931
Four F.F.A. girls
on top of that.
621
00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:51,891
Who knows
what all happened in there,
622
00:30:51,933 --> 00:30:53,768
but it didn't take long.
623
00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,397
JONES: Maybe they were
in there 20, 25 minutes.
624
00:30:57,438 --> 00:31:00,984
{\an8}And then it would have probably
taken another 15 minutes
625
00:31:01,067 --> 00:31:03,611
for the fire to build up
to the point
626
00:31:03,695 --> 00:31:06,281
to where it was noticeable
to the guy next door
627
00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:07,532
in the party shop.
628
00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:11,369
I think the girls tried
to get out the front door,
629
00:31:11,953 --> 00:31:13,246
and took off running.
630
00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:17,709
And they stopped them,
took them back in the back,
631
00:31:17,792 --> 00:31:19,460
And thought,
"You're going to call the cops?"
632
00:31:19,502 --> 00:31:21,045
So they kill 'em.
633
00:31:22,088 --> 00:31:24,299
And then the fire was started.
634
00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:26,342
♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
635
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:29,929
JONES: The bodies were
in two locations.
636
00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:32,307
The three girls were stacked
near the back door.
637
00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:34,851
{\an8}And then the fourth one,
which was Amy,
638
00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:38,021
{\an8}was ten, 13 feet away
from the others.
639
00:31:39,647 --> 00:31:43,401
HUCKABAY:
All four girls were tied
with their own underwear,
640
00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:44,694
brassieres...
641
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:48,448
{\an8}and was shot
in the back of the head
642
00:31:48,489 --> 00:31:50,408
{\an8}with a .22 caliber pistol.
643
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:00,126
{\an8}JONES: There were two guns used,
a .22 and a .380.
644
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:05,006
The .22,
the round is small and soft
645
00:32:05,089 --> 00:32:09,802
and it's just about impossible
to get ballistics off a .22.
646
00:32:09,844 --> 00:32:14,974
The .380 round that had been
used on Amy, found it in a drain
647
00:32:15,975 --> 00:32:18,853
and it was perfectly preserved.
648
00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:22,398
The lands and grooves told us
exactly what kind of gun it was.
649
00:32:24,525 --> 00:32:26,527
We knew what we were
looking for exactly.
650
00:32:29,238 --> 00:32:34,953
♪ ("IT'S THE MOST WONDERFUL
TIME OF THE YEAR"
BY ANDY WILLIAMS PLAYING) ♪
651
00:32:36,412 --> 00:32:39,499
Northcross Mall
was really beautiful
652
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:41,167
and big and fun.
653
00:32:41,209 --> 00:32:43,378
There was an ice-skating rink.
654
00:32:43,419 --> 00:32:47,840
{\an8}Christmas decorations were out
and Santa Claus around.
655
00:32:47,882 --> 00:32:51,636
The movie theaters showed
The Rocky Horror Show
656
00:32:51,719 --> 00:32:54,013
and they did these dramas
where they acted out
657
00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:55,848
the parts at midnight.
658
00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:01,270
That's where kids went
to hang out,
659
00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:04,774
to walk around,
not so much to buy anything.
660
00:33:05,692 --> 00:33:08,111
♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
661
00:33:08,194 --> 00:33:11,406
BEVERLY: A week
after the yogurt shop murders,
662
00:33:12,448 --> 00:33:16,494
{\an8}a boy named
Maurice Pierce decides
663
00:33:16,577 --> 00:33:18,121
{\an8}to go to Northcross Mall,
664
00:33:18,204 --> 00:33:21,416
{\an8}the same mall
that Sarah and Amy had been
665
00:33:21,457 --> 00:33:23,376
{\an8}in the previous week,
666
00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:27,422
and walk around
with a gun, a pistol,
667
00:33:27,463 --> 00:33:29,173
in the waistband of his jeans.
668
00:33:30,258 --> 00:33:31,300
And it was loaded,
669
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:33,594
and he had bullets
in his pocket.
670
00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:40,101
His young disciple,
Forrest Welborn
671
00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:43,855
{\an8}just adored Maurice
and would do pretty much
672
00:33:43,938 --> 00:33:46,149
{\an8}whatever he could do
to be in his presence
673
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:47,942
{\an8}because he was
magnetic, Maurice.
674
00:33:49,193 --> 00:33:53,322
And they were walking
around the mall with this gun.
675
00:33:54,907 --> 00:33:56,075
JONES: Maurice got arrested
676
00:33:56,117 --> 00:33:58,870
with a .22 pistol
at Northcross Mall
677
00:33:58,953 --> 00:34:01,205
which was two blocks away
from the yogurt shop.
678
00:34:02,415 --> 00:34:05,084
We'd put out that we were
looking for a .22 and a .380.
679
00:34:05,877 --> 00:34:08,254
So, I get a young kid over there
680
00:34:08,296 --> 00:34:10,798
who's got a .22 pistol
and is two blocks away.
681
00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:14,761
BEVERLY: They took him
and he was questioned
682
00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:18,139
by a cop named Hector Polanco.
683
00:34:19,223 --> 00:34:21,476
{\an8}DICK: A homicide investigator
for five years,
684
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,604
{\an8}Polanco has never had
a murder case go unsolved.
685
00:34:24,645 --> 00:34:25,855
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
686
00:34:28,357 --> 00:34:29,484
JONES: Hector interviewed him
687
00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:32,153
for three or four hours,
I guess,
688
00:34:32,236 --> 00:34:36,199
before he called us in
and we came in.
689
00:34:36,282 --> 00:34:39,327
I just took down what he said
and I'd stop every now and then
690
00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:41,079
and ask him to clarify stuff.
691
00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:44,165
"My name
is Maurice Earl Pierce,
692
00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,167
I'm 16 years old.
693
00:34:46,209 --> 00:34:47,835
I am
at the Austin Police Department
694
00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:50,004
giving this statement
to Sergeant J. Jones
695
00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:51,506
concerning what I know about
696
00:34:51,547 --> 00:34:53,674
the I Can't Believe It's Yogurt
murders
697
00:34:53,716 --> 00:34:55,635
last Friday night."
698
00:34:55,676 --> 00:34:59,514
"I picked up Forrest Wellborn
from McCallum High School.
699
00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:03,392
We rode around for a while,
went to my house.
700
00:35:03,476 --> 00:35:05,603
Forrest said,
"Let's get the gun."
701
00:35:05,686 --> 00:35:08,856
So I took it out of my closet
where I kept it,
702
00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:11,359
and he put it in the glove box.
703
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,320
Forrest and I went up
to Northcross Mall.
704
00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:16,447
Forrest got out of the car
with the gun.
705
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:18,699
I went to the bathroom,
706
00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:20,493
and Forrest went somewhere else.
707
00:35:20,993 --> 00:35:22,495
We split up.
708
00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:25,039
So about 10:45, I just went
709
00:35:25,123 --> 00:35:27,792
and sat out
in the car waiting for him.
710
00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:30,878
Forrest showed up
at my car at about 11:30.
711
00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:33,714
He got in the car
and handed me the gun,
712
00:35:33,756 --> 00:35:35,258
then said, 'I did something.'
713
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:37,927
I said, 'Like what?'
714
00:35:38,928 --> 00:35:40,221
But he never did answer."
715
00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:45,226
BEVERLY: So Maurice
gave up Forrest Welborn
716
00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:48,354
and said Forrest
had borrowed his gun
717
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:51,023
and had disappeared for a while
718
00:35:51,065 --> 00:35:55,236
and come back sweaty
and the gun had been fired
719
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,738
and he was smelling
of hairspray...
720
00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,282
(CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING)
721
00:35:59,365 --> 00:36:04,245
...which Maurice explained
as a way to start a fire,
722
00:36:04,287 --> 00:36:06,747
to spray hairspray
and throw a match in it.
723
00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:11,252
When asked who else
was with him that night,
724
00:36:11,335 --> 00:36:14,755
{\an8}Maurice said,
"Rob Springsteen...
725
00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:17,550
{\an8}and Michael Scott."
726
00:36:19,677 --> 00:36:21,179
{\an8}JONES:
"Forrest and I left the mall.
727
00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:24,307
{\an8}We met Rob Springsteen and Mike.
728
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:26,392
Then we went riding around,
729
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:28,769
went up to the trails
and shot the gun off
730
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:31,272
because Mike and Rob
said they wanted to."
731
00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:32,607
♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
732
00:36:32,648 --> 00:36:36,110
BEVERLY: Michael Scott
and Rob Springsteen.
733
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,778
They were layabouts.
734
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:39,280
They'd drank a lot of beer,
735
00:36:39,322 --> 00:36:42,241
smoked weed,
like a lot of kids their age.
736
00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:43,868
They were looking for trouble.
737
00:36:45,411 --> 00:36:50,416
The day after the murders,
those four guys stole a car
738
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:54,295
and went to San Antonio
to visit a girlfriend.
739
00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:57,632
JONES: "Forrest and I saw
a goldish tan colored Pathfinder
740
00:36:57,715 --> 00:36:59,467
with keys in it.
741
00:36:59,508 --> 00:37:01,802
We took it
and went and picked up Rob
742
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:04,472
and Mike and went driving."
743
00:37:04,513 --> 00:37:07,350
HUCKABAY: They stole a car
and went to San Antone.
744
00:37:07,433 --> 00:37:10,436
And they drove around
and did stupid stuff
745
00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:13,105
and then came back,
parked that stolen car
746
00:37:13,147 --> 00:37:14,607
where they had gotten it from.
747
00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:16,943
JONES:
"When we got back to Austin,
748
00:37:16,984 --> 00:37:20,446
I dropped Rob and Mike
at Rob's house.
749
00:37:20,488 --> 00:37:22,949
Forrest asked me
if he could borrow the gun.
750
00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:26,160
I told him no. I asked him why.
751
00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:29,580
He said because 'I want to go
do what I did last night,
752
00:37:30,456 --> 00:37:32,124
go kill some more girls.'"
753
00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:50,851
{\an8}Later the next day,
we wired him up
754
00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:52,311
{\an8}and sent him out to Forrest.
755
00:37:59,944 --> 00:38:01,112
{\an8}JONES: And we listened to that.
756
00:38:01,195 --> 00:38:03,114
{\an8}We were following him
on the wire.
757
00:39:32,745 --> 00:39:34,163
{\an8}♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
758
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:37,416
He was trying
to lead Forrest along
759
00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:39,877
and Forrest had no idea
what he was talking about.
760
00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,590
{\an8}And we got Forrest
in to interview him. Uh...
761
00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:47,635
{\an8}Forrest, he couldn't organize
a two-car parade.
762
00:39:47,676 --> 00:39:49,637
I mean, he just...
763
00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:53,140
you know,
he couldn't have held it in.
764
00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,226
You know,
we had Sergeant Polanco
765
00:39:55,309 --> 00:39:57,478
and two other
homicide investigators
766
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,813
that had been there a while.
767
00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:00,856
They knew interrogation.
768
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:05,361
So, could they have done it?
Yeah, they could have.
769
00:40:06,612 --> 00:40:08,155
Did they? I don't know.
770
00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:10,449
Where's the--
Where's the evidence?
771
00:40:12,284 --> 00:40:13,285
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
772
00:40:13,327 --> 00:40:14,620
You get to a point...
773
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,291
where your inner body, soul,
774
00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:23,129
and all that comes up
and says, "This is the guy."
775
00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:25,339
{\an8}I felt that.
776
00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:30,344
{\an8}Just the way he acted
and reacted and all this...
777
00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:33,848
"Something here, Huck."
778
00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:36,809
But I had to prove it.
779
00:40:37,852 --> 00:40:39,728
You have to get
a written confession
780
00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:43,023
signed by the guy
to get him indicted, you know.
781
00:40:43,065 --> 00:40:44,358
If you don't have a confession,
782
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,527
then you better have
a bunch of good evidence
783
00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:48,362
to prove that he did it.
784
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:49,947
Well, we didn't have that.
785
00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:52,032
We didn't have
anything to prove, you know.
786
00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:54,034
I mean, we had no fingerprints.
787
00:40:54,952 --> 00:40:55,953
Uh...
788
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,040
♪ (INTRIGUING TUNE PLAYING) ♪
789
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:03,419
(RAIN PATTERING)
790
00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:08,549
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
791
00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:10,509
{\an8}LARRY BRILL:
Good morning. It's ten o'clock.
792
00:41:10,551 --> 00:41:12,511
{\an8}I'm Larry Brill.
The families of four girls
793
00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:13,762
{\an8}murdered earlier this month
794
00:41:13,846 --> 00:41:15,389
{\an8}at a yogurt store
are making a plea
795
00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:16,891
{\an8}for help this morning.
796
00:41:16,932 --> 00:41:19,059
The investigation
has been moving along slowly,
797
00:41:19,101 --> 00:41:21,937
but police and the families
need help to catch the killers.
798
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:25,316
{\an8}We are the parents
and step-parents
799
00:41:26,108 --> 00:41:28,777
{\an8}of the four young teenage girls
800
00:41:29,778 --> 00:41:33,741
{\an8}brutally slain
at the North Austin yogurt shop.
801
00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:37,703
{\an8}on December 6, 1991.
802
00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:41,081
{\an8}We've been told
that the community
803
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:43,459
{\an8}is looking to us for leadership
804
00:41:43,542 --> 00:41:46,712
{\an8}and advice on ways
to handle this tragedy
805
00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:49,048
{\an8}and what to do.
806
00:41:49,089 --> 00:41:52,218
The families are still having
good days mixed with bad,
807
00:41:53,135 --> 00:41:54,220
so are the police.
808
00:41:54,261 --> 00:41:56,263
Under the close scrutiny
of an angry
809
00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:57,431
and impatient public,
810
00:41:57,473 --> 00:41:59,600
investigators have been
going full throttle now
811
00:41:59,642 --> 00:42:01,018
to turn up any new clues
812
00:42:01,101 --> 00:42:02,895
as to who might have
killed the four girls.
813
00:42:04,647 --> 00:42:06,899
There's a lot of things
that we did
814
00:42:06,941 --> 00:42:09,610
in this case
that hadn't been done before.
815
00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:12,738
We sent undercover guys
to the funerals
816
00:42:12,780 --> 00:42:15,115
and had it mic'd up
just in case somebody
817
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:16,825
showed up to apologize.
818
00:42:17,826 --> 00:42:20,454
{\an8}We pulled every ticket
that was written
819
00:42:20,496 --> 00:42:22,414
{\an8}in that part of town,
820
00:42:22,456 --> 00:42:25,251
we called two or three times
for all of the customers
821
00:42:25,292 --> 00:42:27,461
that had been
in the yogurt shop.
822
00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:30,506
{\an8}Without video evidence,
we're depending on people
823
00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:33,300
{\an8}answering the call
through the media.
824
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,094
{\an8}It's just going to take
the right phone call,
825
00:42:35,135 --> 00:42:36,887
{\an8}the right little piece
of information.
826
00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:40,307
The ones that use credit cards,
we knew.
827
00:42:40,391 --> 00:42:43,852
But we got quite a few in
that had used cash.
828
00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:45,521
Everybody wanted to help.
829
00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:47,773
{\an8}Customers and friends
of the victim have told us
830
00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:50,234
{\an8}about what they consider
831
00:42:50,317 --> 00:42:52,653
to be suspicious people
going in and out
832
00:42:52,736 --> 00:42:53,779
of the restaurant.
833
00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:55,489
Something else we did
in the yogurt shop case,
834
00:42:55,531 --> 00:43:00,244
we hypnotized everybody
that was in the shop.
835
00:43:00,327 --> 00:43:03,706
Maybe they had seen something
the night they were in there
836
00:43:03,789 --> 00:43:06,292
that looked fairly unusual.
837
00:43:06,333 --> 00:43:08,961
That's how we got composites
from several of them,
838
00:43:09,003 --> 00:43:10,713
is we put them under hypnosis.
839
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,632
Police are expected
to release part
840
00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:15,801
of an in-depth
psychological profile
841
00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:18,554
developed last week
with help from the FBI.
842
00:43:18,637 --> 00:43:21,098
POLICE SPOKESPERSON:
The assessment
of the ICBY murders
843
00:43:21,181 --> 00:43:22,558
are as follows.
844
00:43:22,641 --> 00:43:24,184
{\an8}Although the race
of the offenders
845
00:43:24,226 --> 00:43:26,854
{\an8}in this case
is difficult to determine,
846
00:43:26,937 --> 00:43:29,189
{\an8}it is probable
that the killers are White.
847
00:43:30,107 --> 00:43:32,192
{\an8}Although other races
cannot be eliminated
848
00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:34,361
{\an8}on this basis alone
due to the fact
849
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:38,449
{\an8}that other races do frequent
this commercialized area.
850
00:43:38,532 --> 00:43:41,994
{\an8}The age of the offenders
is also difficult to establish
851
00:43:42,036 --> 00:43:44,580
but in all probability,
they are in their late teens
852
00:43:44,663 --> 00:43:45,873
to mid-20s.
853
00:43:45,956 --> 00:43:48,125
Likely unemployed
or in a menial job
854
00:43:48,208 --> 00:43:50,127
not requiring contact
with the public,
855
00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:52,755
and likely we're dealing with
residents of the area.
856
00:43:52,838 --> 00:43:54,548
NEWS ANCHOR:
One has a dominant personality
857
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,216
and manipulates the weaker ones
858
00:43:56,258 --> 00:44:00,137
by forcing them to participate
in some aspect of the crime.
859
00:44:00,220 --> 00:44:01,680
Police believe
at least one of them
860
00:44:01,722 --> 00:44:03,057
has told someone else
861
00:44:03,140 --> 00:44:06,226
and they're hoping
this person will come forward.
862
00:44:06,268 --> 00:44:09,063
You have a person out there
who wasn't there, who knows.
863
00:44:09,146 --> 00:44:12,733
He's standing there every day
looking at a murderer
864
00:44:12,775 --> 00:44:14,860
who up to this point
is getting away with it.
865
00:44:16,445 --> 00:44:19,865
{\an8}The police need
additional eyes and ears.
866
00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:23,410
{\an8}If you think you have
something to report,
867
00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:26,372
{\an8}however seemingly insignificant,
868
00:44:26,413 --> 00:44:29,041
{\an8}your tip may earn you
a substantial reward.
869
00:44:30,542 --> 00:44:32,753
{\an8}NEWS ANCHOR 2: A daycare group
that two of the murdered girls
870
00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:34,755
attended when they were
in preschool,
871
00:44:34,797 --> 00:44:36,340
called Child Inc.,
872
00:44:36,423 --> 00:44:39,093
called for a community effort
in solving the crime.
873
00:44:39,134 --> 00:44:41,178
NEWS ANCHOR 3:
Telephone companies
paid to put billboards
874
00:44:41,261 --> 00:44:43,931
{\an8}on more than 40 taxi cabs
in Austin this week.
875
00:44:44,014 --> 00:44:45,974
{\an8}HUCKABAY: Any information
that anyone has
876
00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:48,060
{\an8}that they think
might be remotely helpful
877
00:44:48,102 --> 00:44:49,269
{\an8}needs to be called in.
878
00:44:53,399 --> 00:44:54,650
BARBARA:
We want those pictures up.
879
00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:55,901
{\an8}We want people to know
880
00:44:55,943 --> 00:44:57,903
{\an8}that these beautiful girls
were alive,
881
00:44:57,945 --> 00:44:59,405
{\an8}a part of this city,
882
00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:01,115
{\an8}and we don't want
anyone to forget
883
00:45:01,198 --> 00:45:03,826
that they lived, they were here,
and they were murdered.
884
00:45:03,909 --> 00:45:05,619
{\an8}Whoever did this is going
to have to be caught,
885
00:45:05,703 --> 00:45:08,122
{\an8}and they're gonna have to be
brought to justice.
886
00:45:09,832 --> 00:45:12,459
SONORA: I always want
someone watching me...
887
00:45:12,501 --> 00:45:15,754
{\an8}because I know Eliza was
my sister and my best friend.
888
00:45:17,673 --> 00:45:20,801
And half of me died
when I heard the news.
889
00:45:20,884 --> 00:45:22,469
{\an8}♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
890
00:45:27,766 --> 00:45:29,852
{\an8}There's somebody working
around the clock on it.
891
00:45:29,935 --> 00:45:32,896
{\an8}Uh, we're getting
numerous calls still.
892
00:45:33,355 --> 00:45:35,149
{\an8}And, you know,
893
00:45:35,232 --> 00:45:38,777
a lot of the information
is just not any good.
894
00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:40,821
But we never know which piece
895
00:45:40,863 --> 00:45:42,406
of information
is going to be the piece
896
00:45:42,489 --> 00:45:44,324
that we need
to solve the puzzle.
897
00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:47,661
JONES: How close we were
to the families,
898
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:50,414
that's something else we did
that was pretty unique.
899
00:45:50,497 --> 00:45:53,167
They were pretty much a part
of the investigation,
900
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:54,960
I mean, they could come and go.
901
00:45:55,002 --> 00:45:56,837
They kind of walked in
a couple times
902
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,841
when we were jacking up
some suspects, but, you know.
903
00:46:00,924 --> 00:46:04,511
{\an8}John Jones and Mike Huckabay,
they came to our house a lot.
904
00:46:04,595 --> 00:46:06,513
Of course, Mike Huckabay
wore boots.
905
00:46:06,555 --> 00:46:08,640
He was kind of the cowboy
906
00:46:08,682 --> 00:46:10,976
of the police department.
We-- We got along.
907
00:46:11,435 --> 00:46:12,895
Bob liked me.
908
00:46:12,978 --> 00:46:15,189
I'm not really a cowboy,
but I, you know,
909
00:46:15,230 --> 00:46:16,482
do a lot of cowboy stuff,
910
00:46:16,523 --> 00:46:18,525
rodeos and stuff like that.
911
00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:20,444
We just sort of connected there.
912
00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:26,200
I didn't want to get real close,
but it's hard not to.
913
00:46:26,241 --> 00:46:29,661
They would give us some tidbits
or keep us up to date.
914
00:46:29,703 --> 00:46:31,997
You could see the stress
on them, stress on us.
915
00:46:33,707 --> 00:46:35,042
I had full faith in them.
916
00:46:39,338 --> 00:46:40,756
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
917
00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:42,841
DAN RATHER:
Two months after the murders,
918
00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:45,302
members of the community
came together
919
00:46:45,385 --> 00:46:48,889
to try and keep alive the memory
of the four teenagers.
920
00:46:48,972 --> 00:46:51,892
ORGANIZER: Now the families
over here, okay?
921
00:46:51,975 --> 00:46:56,021
A couple of Austin composers
wrote a song.
922
00:46:56,647 --> 00:46:57,898
"We Will Not Forget."
923
00:46:57,981 --> 00:46:59,691
Y'all you ready to do one now?
924
00:46:59,733 --> 00:47:01,235
♪ (EMOTIONAL
POWER BALLAD PLAYING) ♪
925
00:47:01,318 --> 00:47:03,987
♪ I watch you lying there ♪
926
00:47:05,322 --> 00:47:07,783
♪ You have my eyes and hair ♪
927
00:47:07,866 --> 00:47:11,411
♪ I love your laughs,
Your coos and sighs ♪
928
00:47:11,495 --> 00:47:13,872
♪ The answer to my prayer ♪
929
00:47:14,706 --> 00:47:21,255
♪ We will not forget ♪
930
00:47:21,338 --> 00:47:26,969
♪ Time we had to share ♪
931
00:47:27,886 --> 00:47:34,434
♪ We will not forget ♪
932
00:47:34,476 --> 00:47:41,233
♪ Dreams you'll never dare ♪
933
00:47:41,275 --> 00:47:44,152
♪ We will not forget... ♪
934
00:47:44,236 --> 00:47:47,614
REPORTER: Several hundred people
showed up to remember the girls.
935
00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:49,283
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
936
00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:51,910
REPORTER: Some spent their time
quietly reflecting,
937
00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:55,289
others reminiscing
about the good times they'd had.
938
00:47:55,372 --> 00:47:58,458
We had walked together
every day after first period.
939
00:47:58,500 --> 00:47:59,793
We'd just sit there talking.
940
00:47:59,835 --> 00:48:01,378
Just me and her
we went down the hall.
941
00:48:01,461 --> 00:48:02,921
It helps to know that there...
942
00:48:04,006 --> 00:48:06,466
are more people
than just you going through
943
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:07,718
the exact same thing
944
00:48:07,801 --> 00:48:09,553
and feeling
the exact same thing.
945
00:48:09,636 --> 00:48:11,013
♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
946
00:48:15,183 --> 00:48:16,602
{\an8}BARBARA:
This is real painful stuff.
947
00:48:16,643 --> 00:48:18,437
{\an8}So, I really work hard
to get back
948
00:48:18,478 --> 00:48:21,189
to the funny part of it,
because it's just too much.
949
00:48:23,025 --> 00:48:25,444
The thing I laughed about
right after the girls died
950
00:48:25,485 --> 00:48:28,322
is that Americans,
the way we deal with grief,
951
00:48:28,405 --> 00:48:30,657
let's see, we had T-shirts,
we had coffee mugs,
952
00:48:30,699 --> 00:48:32,117
we had buttons, we had pins.
953
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:35,162
{\an8}We have to make-- We have
to make a marketing opportunity
954
00:48:35,203 --> 00:48:36,330
{\an8}out of everything.
955
00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:40,000
{\an8}So, we did. We sure did.
We did all that, too.
956
00:48:40,584 --> 00:48:42,961
So, uh, isn't that funny?
957
00:48:44,087 --> 00:48:45,422
{\an8}It's got their names on it.
958
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:54,848
CLAIRE:
The deeper I got into it,
959
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:57,184
the more incapable I felt
960
00:48:57,225 --> 00:48:59,144
{\an8}of telling the story myself.
961
00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:02,147
{\an8}This was Sarah's eighth grade.
962
00:49:02,189 --> 00:49:05,943
You can tell she has glasses
and Jennifer's senior year.
963
00:49:07,486 --> 00:49:11,239
I would find myself talking
about the case,
964
00:49:11,323 --> 00:49:14,534
the project that I'm working on.
I'm working on this project...
965
00:49:16,745 --> 00:49:18,455
but the project's so dark.
966
00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:21,208
And I would talk about it as if
967
00:49:21,291 --> 00:49:25,003
this was, uh,
like my path to professionalism.
968
00:49:28,048 --> 00:49:29,841
BARBARA:
And they're both smiling.
969
00:49:29,883 --> 00:49:31,843
-CLAIRE: It's adorable.
-BARBARA: Oh my gosh.
970
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:37,891
More white sands, more memories,
more life, more...
971
00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:42,729
Oh yeah, that's very, very
emotional to do that, so...
972
00:49:44,356 --> 00:49:46,108
CREW MEMBER: Can we get
a wide shot of you
973
00:49:46,191 --> 00:49:47,943
-looking through them?
-BARBARA: Yeah.
974
00:49:49,903 --> 00:49:51,863
People always say,
"Oh, I just can't imagine."
975
00:49:52,572 --> 00:49:53,657
You don't need to.
976
00:49:53,740 --> 00:49:55,909
Don't even-- Don't even
need to think about it.
977
00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:57,828
It's too much to think about,
978
00:49:57,911 --> 00:49:59,663
too much to carry
with you forever.
979
00:49:59,746 --> 00:50:01,248
You'll have your own pain
in your own way
980
00:50:01,331 --> 00:50:02,541
and your own time.
981
00:50:02,582 --> 00:50:04,626
You don't need
to visit this one. (SNIFFLES)
982
00:50:05,252 --> 00:50:06,920
It's enough.
983
00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:08,213
(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
984
00:50:08,964 --> 00:50:10,090
(KEY CLICKS)
985
00:50:10,173 --> 00:50:13,969
CLAIRE: And then we have
the sit-down interview with her.
986
00:50:14,052 --> 00:50:16,805
I don't remember it very well,
but she was really open.
987
00:50:18,223 --> 00:50:20,892
Well, I guess can we start off
988
00:50:20,934 --> 00:50:22,269
by your telling us
989
00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:24,521
how your daughters
were murdered?
990
00:50:24,604 --> 00:50:28,859
All right, so anyway...
(LAUGHS) Um...
991
00:50:30,277 --> 00:50:34,072
{\an8}I'm mortified
by my own footage,
992
00:50:34,114 --> 00:50:38,994
um, which made
editing it difficult. But, um...
993
00:50:39,077 --> 00:50:40,579
I think that's
an insensitive way
994
00:50:40,620 --> 00:50:42,789
to start an interview.
(LAUGHS)
995
00:50:42,873 --> 00:50:46,793
Um, and...
what are you gonna do?
996
00:50:46,877 --> 00:50:48,628
I mean, it is what it is.
997
00:50:48,670 --> 00:50:50,922
I wanted to get to that, um...
998
00:50:52,215 --> 00:50:54,301
that moment where...
999
00:50:55,844 --> 00:50:56,845
you...
1000
00:50:58,221 --> 00:51:04,061
are sensitive to the terror
that the girls faced.
1001
00:51:04,478 --> 00:51:05,812
And I know
1002
00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:07,898
that the families have
thought about that.
1003
00:51:07,981 --> 00:51:11,234
So, I asked the question,
but it sounds insensitive.
1004
00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:14,362
We can see how she responds.
1005
00:51:16,656 --> 00:51:18,492
Well, I guess, um...
1006
00:51:18,533 --> 00:51:20,911
Well, I guess, can we start off
by your telling us
1007
00:51:20,994 --> 00:51:22,370
how your daughters
were murdered?
1008
00:51:23,205 --> 00:51:25,248
(CHUCKLES) Um...
1009
00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:27,959
Yeah, uh...
1010
00:51:28,001 --> 00:51:31,588
December 6 was a Friday
1011
00:51:31,671 --> 00:51:33,632
and... and I was at work
1012
00:51:33,673 --> 00:51:35,592
and I talked
to the girls on the phone
1013
00:51:35,675 --> 00:51:38,345
and I told them I was
getting off early that day.
1014
00:51:38,428 --> 00:51:40,597
And so, I was supposed
to get off
1015
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,683
at 4:30, and when I came home,
1016
00:51:43,767 --> 00:51:44,935
I was actually--
1017
00:51:45,018 --> 00:51:46,520
actually it was
5:30 when I got home,
1018
00:51:46,561 --> 00:51:48,855
so Sarah was sitting
on the couch
1019
00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:50,774
and she was peeling an orange
1020
00:51:50,857 --> 00:51:53,318
and, uh, Jennifer wasn't--
1021
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,694
I asked her
where her sister was.
1022
00:51:54,736 --> 00:51:56,488
She said, "She's over at Sam's."
1023
00:51:56,530 --> 00:51:59,032
That was her boyfriend,
that was Jennifer's boyfriend.
1024
00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:01,409
And they had
taken him home from school.
1025
00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:03,870
And-- But Sarah was--
1026
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:05,705
She said to me, she said,
"I'm going out tonight."
1027
00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:07,124
And I said, "Oh, you are?"
1028
00:52:08,166 --> 00:52:09,459
Interesting that she was
telling me
1029
00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:13,046
what she was going to do
and, uh, before she asked.
1030
00:52:13,088 --> 00:52:15,340
And so, yeah, she said, "I am--
1031
00:52:15,382 --> 00:52:18,009
We're going to the mall.
1032
00:52:18,051 --> 00:52:20,220
Amy's going to spend the night.
We're going to the mall."
1033
00:52:20,303 --> 00:52:23,265
I said, "Okay." And so, uh...
1034
00:52:23,348 --> 00:52:25,350
Anyway, just-- she was
in such a good mood.
1035
00:52:25,392 --> 00:52:27,060
She was in such a good mood.
1036
00:52:27,102 --> 00:52:29,729
That's the thing I remember
the most about the last--
1037
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:31,022
that last evening.
1038
00:52:31,064 --> 00:52:32,607
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1039
00:52:36,278 --> 00:52:38,071
BARBARA: Jennifer was going
to work at the yogurt shop
1040
00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:40,240
that night and I was so tired
1041
00:52:40,282 --> 00:52:41,741
because my boss
had been on vacation
1042
00:52:41,825 --> 00:52:43,451
and Sarah wanted me
to take her and Amy
1043
00:52:43,535 --> 00:52:44,578
to the mall
1044
00:52:44,661 --> 00:52:46,121
so they could do
some Christmas shopping
1045
00:52:46,204 --> 00:52:47,747
or whatever they were doing.
1046
00:52:47,789 --> 00:52:51,376
And I said, "Oh, man,
I just don't feel like it."
1047
00:52:51,418 --> 00:52:53,003
So, Jennifer,
1048
00:52:53,086 --> 00:52:58,425
uh, I convinced Jennifer
to take Sarah with her
1049
00:52:58,466 --> 00:53:00,677
and to go pick up Amy
before-- on her way
1050
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,095
to work and drop them both
at the mall,
1051
00:53:02,179 --> 00:53:04,139
which was just a block or two
1052
00:53:04,222 --> 00:53:06,391
over from
the yogurt store itself.
1053
00:53:06,433 --> 00:53:10,228
And, uh, so... I walked them out
1054
00:53:10,270 --> 00:53:11,479
to the car
and they were getting,
1055
00:53:11,563 --> 00:53:13,481
you know, getting all their
stuff together.
1056
00:53:13,565 --> 00:53:17,569
And, you know,
I got a hug from both of them.
1057
00:53:17,611 --> 00:53:19,112
Of course,
I told them I loved them
1058
00:53:19,154 --> 00:53:22,449
and got to do that last
1059
00:53:22,532 --> 00:53:27,120
"Y'all be careful, I'll see you
and I'll talk to you later.
1060
00:53:27,162 --> 00:53:29,748
Y'all be careful."
And off they went
1061
00:53:29,789 --> 00:53:31,875
and that was
the last time I saw them.
1062
00:53:31,958 --> 00:53:34,085
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC SWELLING) ♪
1063
00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:39,132
BARBARA: My husband and I were
at the house that night,
1064
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:40,634
and he was watching TV
1065
00:53:40,675 --> 00:53:43,511
and they had a special
on Pearl Harbor.
1066
00:53:43,595 --> 00:53:45,055
And I just didn't want
to watch it.
1067
00:53:45,138 --> 00:53:47,140
It just upsets me,
so I didn't watch it.
1068
00:53:47,182 --> 00:53:50,060
So I went into the bedroom
to watch TV,
1069
00:53:50,143 --> 00:53:52,646
the Star Trek I think is what--
the reruns.
1070
00:53:52,687 --> 00:53:55,148
And I was in there
and I was laying across the bed.
1071
00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,317
I still remember
I had on my purple sweats
1072
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,652
of the day, you know,
1073
00:53:58,735 --> 00:54:00,487
and I was all snugged,
1074
00:54:00,528 --> 00:54:02,697
but I fell asleep
on top of the covers,
1075
00:54:03,365 --> 00:54:04,658
and he came to bed
1076
00:54:04,699 --> 00:54:06,618
and sort of got in
under his side
1077
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:09,496
and I never really
got in the covers.
1078
00:54:09,579 --> 00:54:11,581
And then I heard...
1079
00:54:12,958 --> 00:54:14,626
the doorbell ring,
1080
00:54:14,668 --> 00:54:17,337
and it startled me
because I wasn't exactly in bed
1081
00:54:17,379 --> 00:54:19,506
and I wasn't exactly out of bed.
1082
00:54:19,547 --> 00:54:20,632
And I jumped up
1083
00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:23,009
and he was in bed
and I ran to the door
1084
00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:25,345
and I didn't see the girls
and I was,
1085
00:54:25,387 --> 00:54:27,138
you know, things are running
through your mind.
1086
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:29,808
It's not that many feet
from my bed to the front door.
1087
00:54:29,849 --> 00:54:34,521
So, I was looking
and I turned the lights on.
1088
00:54:34,562 --> 00:54:36,856
And as soon as I
opened the door,
1089
00:54:36,898 --> 00:54:41,194
there were two police officers
and a lady with them.
1090
00:54:41,236 --> 00:54:44,322
And I said,
"Skip, the police are here.
1091
00:54:44,364 --> 00:54:45,824
Something's wrong
with the girls."
1092
00:54:45,865 --> 00:54:48,785
They didn't tell me that.
I knew. I knew.
1093
00:54:49,369 --> 00:54:50,370
And he got up
1094
00:54:50,453 --> 00:54:52,330
and they had us
sit down on the couch
1095
00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:56,584
and they said there had been
a fire, and, um...
1096
00:55:03,883 --> 00:55:04,884
(SNIFFS)
1097
00:55:07,053 --> 00:55:11,308
...and that the girls were gone,
that they were dead.
1098
00:55:12,350 --> 00:55:16,396
And, uh, I kept trying
to listen to that.
1099
00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:17,897
I knew that didn't make sense.
1100
00:55:19,524 --> 00:55:20,692
I knew that it didn't make sense
1101
00:55:20,734 --> 00:55:23,069
because the girls
wouldn't just burn up.
1102
00:55:23,111 --> 00:55:24,988
They just wouldn't burn up
in a fire.
1103
00:55:25,655 --> 00:55:26,656
And, um...
1104
00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:29,409
And that they were both gone.
1105
00:55:30,243 --> 00:55:31,328
(BREATHING SHAKILY)
1106
00:55:32,871 --> 00:55:33,955
And...
1107
00:55:36,583 --> 00:55:41,838
So, you're processing,
trying to... make that work.
1108
00:55:42,714 --> 00:55:45,508
How can someone be
and then not be?
1109
00:55:46,217 --> 00:55:47,635
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
1110
00:55:51,389 --> 00:55:52,557
BARBARA:
And they wouldn't leave
1111
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:54,434
until we called someone
to be with us.
1112
00:55:54,476 --> 00:55:57,854
I didn't want anybody to know,
so I just lied.
1113
00:55:57,937 --> 00:55:59,939
"No, we don't have anybody.
We don't know anyone.
1114
00:56:00,732 --> 00:56:02,442
Can't tell that story."
1115
00:56:02,484 --> 00:56:05,070
And finally I admitted
1116
00:56:05,111 --> 00:56:08,114
that I had a sister
that lived in this town.
1117
00:56:09,699 --> 00:56:10,742
And...
1118
00:56:12,619 --> 00:56:13,661
Um...
1119
00:56:15,205 --> 00:56:16,414
So, the...
1120
00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,210
the lady
from the police department
1121
00:56:20,293 --> 00:56:21,378
called my sister.
1122
00:56:22,003 --> 00:56:23,046
It's so funny,
1123
00:56:23,129 --> 00:56:25,924
because we've laughed
about this story since. She--
1124
00:56:25,965 --> 00:56:28,134
She jumps out of bed,
and what does she put on?
1125
00:56:28,176 --> 00:56:30,095
Her stupid blue sweats.
(LAUGHS)
1126
00:56:30,136 --> 00:56:34,307
So, we're both dressed
in these silly sweats.
1127
00:56:34,349 --> 00:56:36,101
That's not funny, I know, but...
1128
00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:37,477
Uh...
1129
00:56:37,977 --> 00:56:40,063
it was just crazy.
1130
00:56:40,146 --> 00:56:42,440
So, she did get across town.
She had to stop and get gas,
1131
00:56:42,482 --> 00:56:45,151
and she came across town
in her blue sweats.
1132
00:56:46,403 --> 00:56:47,529
And, um...
1133
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:50,824
and then I had to tell her...
1134
00:56:53,701 --> 00:56:56,204
the, um,
what had really happened.
1135
00:56:59,624 --> 00:57:00,625
I, uh...
1136
00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:06,131
I-- I had to tell her,
and I had to see her face.
1137
00:57:09,217 --> 00:57:11,386
It was horrible to see her face.
1138
00:57:13,304 --> 00:57:15,932
You don't want to tell people
horrible things.
1139
00:57:17,892 --> 00:57:19,727
And, uh, that was...
1140
00:57:21,604 --> 00:57:23,398
was a really horrible thing.
1141
00:57:23,481 --> 00:57:25,191
CHILD: (ON RECORDING) What?
1142
00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:27,777
Acknowledging someone's death
is just...
1143
00:57:29,154 --> 00:57:30,905
is just so very hard.
1144
00:57:31,948 --> 00:57:34,159
And... (SNIFFS) ...so...
1145
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:39,956
Of course, so then
we have to call Mike Harbison,
1146
00:57:40,582 --> 00:57:41,958
the girls' father...
1147
00:57:43,168 --> 00:57:44,836
and hear his screams...
1148
00:57:46,796 --> 00:57:47,797
And...
1149
00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:53,344
and his wife got on the phone
and she was saying,
1150
00:57:53,386 --> 00:57:54,387
"Tell me what happened.
1151
00:57:54,471 --> 00:57:56,473
He's screaming
and I don't know what happened."
1152
00:57:57,182 --> 00:57:58,641
And we had to tell her.
1153
00:58:01,853 --> 00:58:02,854
And...
1154
00:58:07,442 --> 00:58:10,570
So, you have another person
whose life is over.
1155
00:58:11,821 --> 00:58:15,492
And one more person
whose life is over. And...
1156
00:58:17,869 --> 00:58:20,455
I had to call my sister,
my other sister...
1157
00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:27,545
and tell them
that life was over and...
1158
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:31,132
and listen to the screams.
1159
00:58:34,469 --> 00:58:35,470
And...
1160
00:58:37,347 --> 00:58:40,475
This was just our house.
This was just my house.
1161
00:58:40,558 --> 00:58:41,768
There were other houses.
1162
00:58:42,936 --> 00:58:46,189
Bob and Pam had to
go through this. (SNIFFLES)
1163
00:58:46,272 --> 00:58:48,191
Maria Thomas
had to go through this.
1164
00:58:49,317 --> 00:58:54,239
Telling the families the news
of the absence of souls.
1165
00:58:57,951 --> 00:58:59,410
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
1166
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:05,959
♪ (MELANCHOLY MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1167
00:59:53,923 --> 00:59:55,633
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪